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JonnyRockets

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Re: Seating people at different tables
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2006, 04:45:17 PM »
I keep hitting random generate till I'm pretty happy with mix.  then you can drag and drop to even out more if you'd like.

I think this is one issue everyone will have to do their own way, but it seems like once you start hitting the random generate button over and over, it is just going to encourage complaining, and then there will always be one person not satisfied (like the first person out!)

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Actually - I've had no complaining since I started this - whereas I used to have complaining before.  If you're just doing a single table game - then just hit random -  but multi table -  16 guys who you know -  they like the tables balanced out a bit more.  Again - especially when comes to rebuys.  If you have one table - all guys with the money and agressive / rebuyers.   you might come to the final table finally -  with a total of 200,000 chips allocated to the strong table - vs. 100,000 to the weaker table.

So most the weaker players are taken out.

Now - if I had a 3 table game -  I'm sure random generate would work better again.

But yeah -  the way I'm doing it is the best for happy players / fairer game for everyone.

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Re: Seating people at different tables
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2006, 08:24:09 PM »
I understand where you are coming from, but why even use the random generator button?  Why not just manually seat balanced tables?

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Re: Seating people at different tables
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2006, 10:48:58 AM »
Hey man!

Just the way I do it -  I use the Random Generate fuction to keep some randomness there.   I don't sit there nitpicking at the list and making sure it's balanced perfectly.   I just look -  if I've got 20 players and I feel that 6 of them are "POWER" players - if those power players are out of whack -  i move em around a little.   Thats all -  keep the rest Random.   So I use the Random Generate function (keep clicking) until my power players are close to balanced out - then I usually only have to move around 1 or 2 players.

Good to go!

I'll do whatever I have to to keep the majority of people happy at my game.   It's a competitive game yes - but I try to keep it as fun as possible for everyone involved -  This is just one thing I do that adds to that.  Whatever works for you own game right! 



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Re: Seating people at different tables
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2006, 04:46:59 PM »
Whatever works for your own game right!

exactly! 8)

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Re: Seating people at different tables
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2006, 06:04:56 PM »
Our tourneys have one or two couples who request that they are initially separated. I do what I can to accommodate by letting TD do its normal random thing - if they end up on the same table I just manually swap them with another player. I appreciate this is a pain if you have lots of couples.

Either way, they know that it is only for the initial seating. If after 5 mins they end up having to move to their partner's table they have to accept that. That way you can accommodate it but not in a hard to maintain way.

Doesn't help the chap who is inundated with couples - but just my twopenneth worth

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Re: Seating people at different tables
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2006, 02:51:18 PM »
Does anyone have any issues with the seat moves?  I know in the casinos it is done based on the button and blinds.  No one has had an issue with it at my tourneys but one player who runs his own tourney did question me on it.

I can't disagree with him that it sometimes is not fair because you could end being Big Blind at two tables, but trying to TD and play makes the auto seat move a blessing.

Is this more of a non-issue versus fairness?
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Re: Seating people at different tables
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2006, 06:49:10 PM »
This is the sound effect I play when anyone questions TD  ... ;D

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Re: Seating people at different tables
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2006, 08:22:49 AM »
I can't disagree with him that it sometimes is not fair because you could end being Big Blind at two tables, but trying to TD and play makes the auto seat move a blessing.

Our rule is that if you are moved to another table to keep the tables balanced, and if you come into a blind, just sit out two hands and let the deal pass you so you won't ever be the big blind twice if you move tables. Also, since we have a three table tournament, when a table is broken down, high card is the new dealer at each table. This has worked out great for us with no complaints.

Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Seating people at different tables
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2006, 08:35:01 AM »
At our club and UK casinos the player who is about to be the big blind is moved and positioned on the new table in a vacant seat (if more than one vacant seat is available he is seated so that he will become the the big blind as soon as possible).

If that seat happens to be the next big blind then he is the big blind straight away (which he was about to be anyway on the old table). If he is positioned as the small blind or dealer he must wait until AFTER the button passes him before he can be dealt in (i.e. he becomes the cutoff), otherwise he is dealt in stratightaway

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Re: Seating people at different tables
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2006, 08:43:35 AM »
At our club and UK casinos the player who is about to be the big blind is moved and positioned on the new table in a vacant seat (if more than one vacant seat is available he is seated so that he will become the the big blind as soon as possible).

This is probably the best way to do it but then it takes TD randomized seating out of the picture. I would rather have TD randomly select the person to move instead of selecting someone in the blinds. If you have more than two tables, how do you select which table to pull from? Especially when the other two tables have the same amount of players.

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Re: Seating people at different tables
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2006, 08:55:42 AM »
Well, in reality random seat assignments should be restricted to initial seating and table break ups only IMHO as it is unfair to let someone play a BB more than once in a round which is likely if randomness is used all the time.

I use TD to tell me that a person needs to move and just note the "old" and "new" suggested tables and then tell it not to move anyone - I then move the BB from the suggested "Old" table to the suggested "new" table and then reflect that move in TD by dragging that person's name from the old table to the new table on the "tables" tab. If 2 people need to move I will do the same.

However, in the event a table is broken up and therefore there's a whole bunch of moves, I just accept TD's suggestions and click "ok move everyone" button - which is all you can realistically do anyway. Likewise in a casino - when a table breaks you randomly draw a card for a new seat. This is is the only time that randomness should come into play (aside from initial seat draw).