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Overall Score formula... please help
« on: December 07, 2008, 01:32:25 PM »
I am a dummu when it comes to numbers.

I am using Tournament Director (registered copy, thanks for that great software that was worth buying) and would like to calculate my overall scoring the exact same way i can do it on Stats Genie...

I will explain: We play on a scheduled tournament every month, and a total season is around 10-12 tournaments. In Stats Genie, i will only retain the 6 best tournament per player to construct the "Real" score for a player.

Is there a way i could do the same in tournament director, this would enable me to show everyone at the end of a tournament the scoring without exporting to an XML and uploading it to Stats Genie before we can see overall score?

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Re: Overall Score formula... please help
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2008, 11:22:34 AM »
Yes, set up a Filter on the Stats page.  Use the Tournament Scoring formula to calculate each player's score for a tournament.  Use the Overall Scoring formula to total the best 6 tournaments.  You didn't specify how you construct the final score, but to sum up each player's top (highest) 6 tournaments, the Overall Scoring formula would be:

sum(top(6, scores))

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Re: Overall Score formula... please help
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2008, 12:58:54 PM »
Thanks, that formula works... but only in part... :o

The reason, is because we manually make corrections to the scoring for players that don't show up and don't even warn us, so we deduct 5 points to someone that does this.

It seems that the score updated from a tournament refresh reflect this, but the overall score doesn't...

Where could i correct this?

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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2008, 11:30:19 AM »
Does your Tournament Scoring formula take into account the player's Points?  If so, it should reflect those deductions you made.

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Re: Overall Score formula... please help
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2009, 08:48:01 PM »
Ok... i read a little on the subject, and this is still not working...

Points for Playing Formula (Game tab) is : (sqrt(((n * bc) * (bc / tc))) / (r + 1.0))+(nh*(nh+1)/10)

Tournament Scoring formula is: points

And then, using what you suggested, in the Overall Scoring, i am using what you suggested: sum(top(6, scores))

I am still getting odds numbers, which are different from Stats Genie that calculate the top 6 tournaments of each player... what's wrong?
« Last Edit: September 13, 2009, 09:11:10 PM by Rassal »

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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2009, 04:37:24 PM »
How does Stats Genie calculate the overall score for a player?  Is it dropping the lowest score, or computing it from the top 6?  There's a slight difference.

If it drops the lowest score, then a player who played in 4 tournaments would get the overall score calculated from the top 3 (since one is always dropped).  If it uses the top 6, then the same player would have his overall score calculated from all 4 tournaments.

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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2009, 07:27:20 PM »
Well, i am not mastering the way of communicating the problem... let me rephrase... with screenshots.

I doubt Stats Genie does something wrong... but i doubt i do, which i am requesting help for.

Filter or not the scores are the same... whatever i put in the tournament formula or the overall scoring, i get the same result as if there was no formula at all in there. I am seeking to obtain the same score as i get on the stats genie page, which takes only the 6 best tournament of each player...

As i stated, the 3 formulas i used are the same, and i get the same result. It's useless to speak for the 2009 season anyway, we only played 5 tournament as we speak, so numbers are the same on TD than in stats genie as of yet, but it won't be the case after 7 tournaments. So i obviously do something wrong or else....
« Last Edit: September 14, 2009, 08:03:41 PM by Rassal »

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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2009, 09:59:34 AM »
If you have no formula for Tournament Score and no formula for Overall Score, then the Overall Score value for any player will be 0 (zero).  Are you saying that no matter what you put into the Tournament Score formula and the Overall Score formula, that each player always gets 0 for their Overall Score?  Or are they getting some other value?

I'm afraid I really don't understand other than you seem to get different values from the TD than you do from Stats Genie.

Or ... you get the same results from the TD as you do from Stats Genie ... until you get past the 5th tournament of the season?

I'm confused.

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Re: Overall Score formula... please help
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2009, 09:45:02 PM »
Ok, let me rephrase.

Using the Point for playing formula, i get a result, then whatever i put in tournament scoring and overall score, i get the same result. And i would like to get only top 6 games, but for some reason, it give only the score i get from the PFP formula.

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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2009, 09:14:52 AM »
So, no matter what you put into the Tournament Scoring and Overall Scoring formulas, you get the same results every time?  I think the screenshots would help.