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Help Me / Re: Formulas
« on: June 01, 2006, 09:25:20 AM »
The program allows you to award points for buying-in, rebuying, adding-on, hits (busting other players out), and as prizes.  These are all static, in that they can only be numeric amounts.  For example, you can award 3 points for buying-in to the tournament.  Or you can award 2 points for rebuying (or -2 points if you want).

There is also "Points for playing", which might not have the most apropos name, but nevertheless...  This is where you can enter formulas to award points depending on various factors, such as rank or how many players are in the tournament.  On the Game tab of the Settings page, press the Points for playing button.  There you can create and test your formula.

The formula you describe is simply: n-r
or: numberOfPlayers - rank

Yep, you've found an issue with displaying values less than 0.1.  Note that it isn't a calculation issue, but only a display issue.  So, values are computed correctly, but displayed incorrectly.  Doesn't really change how it's affecting you, I know, but nevertheless...

Thanks for posting the HTML output - that was helpful.  I was able to quickly see that the other values were correct, and only the .9 was incorrect.  Made it easier to narrow down the problem.

Fixed for the next version.

General Discussion / Re: General Information
« on: May 29, 2006, 05:22:19 PM »
Is player movement random?  The answer is yes and no.

Because of the different settings and configuration options of the software, all kinds of player movement can occur, but in general, movement falls into one of two categories:  (1) one or more players (usually only 1) are moved to balance the number of players at each table; and (2) one or more (usually only 1) tables are collapsed.

When a balance needs to occur, the software basically finds empty seats that are good candidates to put players in, and finds players that are good candidates to move.  Then they are ranked.  Then from the group of "most moveable" players 1 (or more) players is chosen at random.  Likewise for the destination seat(s).

If you tell the software where the dealer buttons are located, you are reducing the randomness of which players are chosen to move, because the software will do its best to make sure the moved player is an equal number of seats away from the dealer as he was before he was moved.  If there are only 2 seats to choose from to place a player, there are only 2 possible players at each other table that would qualify to move.

Help Me / Re: Player Rankings
« on: May 25, 2006, 10:10:13 AM »
I think you are still misunderstanding the term "placed".

Typically, a tournament will have prizes for the top ranked players.  For example, a tournament might award prizes to the top 3 players (1st, 2nd, and 3rd).  Another tournament with more players might award prizes for the top 5 players (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th).  With the Tournament Director software, you would award these by creating prizes that are assigned to specific ranks.  A prize for rank 1 (1st), and prize for rank 2 (2nd), and so on.

When you use the term "place", as in "Did so-and-so place in the tournament?", the question is referring to whether or not the player got one of the top ranked spots, which is different for different tournaments.  For the first tournament mentioned above, the player "placed" if they got 1st, 2nd, or 3rd place, since those are the ranks with prizes awarded to them.  In the second tournament mentioned above, a player would "place" if they got 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th.

The software defines "placed" in exactly the same way.  If the tournament in question has prizes for ranks 1, 2, and 3, then players who achieved rank 1, 2, or 3 would "place".  "Placing" does not distinguish between 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th place, or any other rank.  If you got the 1st place prize in a tournament, you "placed".  If you got the 5th place prize in a tournament, you "placed".

So, for example:

A player plays in 5 tournaments
Each tournament awards prizes for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place
The player ranks 1st, 6th, 3rd, 10th, and 5th in those tournaments.
The player "places" 2 times (when he got 1st place and when he got 3rd place)
2 / 5 = .4

Therefore, for this player, "Times Placed" is 2 and "Average Placed" is .4

This player "places", on average, 40% of the time.

Help Me / Re: Player Rankings
« on: May 23, 2006, 05:31:28 PM »
Correct.  A player "places" if and only if they are awarded a ranked prize.  If you have no ranked prizes, then no one places.  Following this logic, in your Stats, each player will have a "Times Placed" value of 0.  And the average of 0 across any number of tournaments is 0.

General Discussion / Re: Stupid Question?
« on: May 23, 2006, 12:39:29 PM »
I have 2.0, so the question I am asking is, "Will I always be able to use it, if I don't care about upgrades?"

Yes, as I mentioned in the last message, "The license doesn't expire".

Help Me / Re: Player Rankings
« on: May 23, 2006, 12:38:41 PM »
Well, you can't average the times a player placed unless you know how many times the player placed overall.  You can't know that unless you've defined what makes a player "place", and the definition is that they receive a ranked prize.

What you're looking for is average rank, not average placed.  Average rank is not there, because it in itself is not too meaningful.  Instead, you'll find "score".  Score is basically an average ranking weighted for tournament size.  There are two methods for you to choose from at the moment for calculating each player's score.  A future version will allow you to supply your own formula.

Help Me / Re: Player Rankings Screen
« on: May 23, 2006, 10:15:13 AM »
There isn't a way to do this presently.  Text (names, etc) are left-justified, numeric values are right-justified.  The only items centered are the time/date a player busts out and the checkmark signify a player has paid.

General Discussion / Re: Stupid Question?
« on: May 22, 2006, 03:09:10 PM »
The license doesn't expire.  The more pertinent question is whether or not it will be good for future versions of the software.  You can find that answer in the FAQ:

Help Me / Re: Player Rankings
« on: May 22, 2006, 02:28:39 PM »
Well, how do you determine if someone "places" in one of your events?

Help Me / Re: Player Rankings
« on: May 22, 2006, 11:41:01 AM »
So, in this context the word "placed" means that a player was awarded a prize that was configured for a specific rank.  In other words, 1st place, 2nd place, etc.  If a tournament has 20 players, and has prizes for 1st, 2nd, or 3rd place, then anyone ranking 1, 2 or 3 "placed" in the tournament.  Bigger tournaments might have 100 players and award prizes for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th places, for example.  In this case, anyone ranking 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6 would have "placed".

Is the "Times Placed" also 0 for each player?  If so, perhaps your tournaments don't have the prizes configured properly.  Make sure they are assigned to a specific rank.  If they are, and the tournament has ended, they should also automatically have a recipient.  The software should have automatically awarded them to the appropriate player(s).

Help Me / Re: Player Rankings
« on: May 22, 2006, 10:00:51 AM »
You're going to have to be much more specific.  What do you mean by "It is not automatically calculated"?  Are you saying that the values for each player under the "Average Placed" column on the Stats tab are completely missing?

Suggestions / Re: Tournament In-Play ranking display
« on: May 21, 2006, 04:29:37 PM »
No, the Player Rankings page sorts by rank, then by name.  But I suppose an option could be added to sort by chip count instead.  I'll put it on the to-do list.

Help Me / Re: Player Rankings
« on: May 21, 2006, 04:26:07 PM »
What do you mean?  The "average placed" is calculated automatically.  Do you mean it is inaccurate?

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