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Help Me / Re: Best way to handle pre-paid league
« on: October 14, 2012, 12:47:18 AM »
Yeah, I am doing the fixed payouts, so those are there..  Just didn't want the money to show off as it looked like it did.  What's also a pain is we do bounties, but those aren't pre-paid, so I think it'll be easiest to buy-in those who don't show (removing bounty paid), then do a quick buy in for the remaining players.  Even though not doing a hitman is possible, I'll want to remove the bounty to ensure everything stays accurate.  I guess it's not that big of deal, but was just seeking some ideas if another way.

Help Me / Best way to handle pre-paid league
« on: October 14, 2012, 12:06:59 AM »
Our league 20 players and is once a month.  At start of January, we all pay $300 up front and then divide that up for monthly payouts, points payout, and a 13th game for the rest of the money.  Since each tournament pays out $250, that works to $12.50 per tournament per person.

What I'm wondering is how best to handle players that don't show up?  The prize pool for each month is already paid.  If I remove them from the tournament, then the prize pool doesn't match up.  So should I just add them and then eliminate those that don't show up?  Just curious as to how others deal with that.

Help Me / Re: How to properly Chop points.
« on: October 13, 2012, 11:21:11 PM »
I think I might have it.  In the Statistics profile I was also using the same formula for scoring that I was for determining the points..  if(rank <= 15, 16 - rank,0)

When really all I need to do is for scoring use Points.  And then from there, I can use the other formulas to get Total Points and Points (w/two drops).

Appreciate the help guys, like I'd said, just started working with this awesome program this week.  I'm going to play around with a few others and make sure the points are calculating exactly how I want them too..

Help Me / Re: How to properly Chop points.
« on: October 13, 2012, 10:59:10 PM »
Did that..  Still no go.

Help Me / Re: How to properly Chop points.
« on: October 13, 2012, 10:18:44 PM »
Ok, I adjusted it and it shows up in the points column for that tournament..  But that brings me to another fix I need to figure out.  The adjustment fixed the points for that tournament and shows up  as 14.50 once I put in an adjustment of -.50.  But the following formulas aren't reflecting that amount.

Points - showing the 14.50 after I adjusted down in players edit
Total Points - sum(scores)  - Still showing 15pts
Points (Top 10) - sum(top(max(4, n - 2), scores))  - Still showing 15pts

I guess what I'm looking for is to get this all working together?  What do I need to do to clean this up?  Is it just a matter of tweaking my formulas?  If using sum(scores) isn't taking into account the adjustments, is there another variable I can reference?

Help Me / Re: How to properly Chop points.
« on: October 13, 2012, 10:44:45 AM »
I also just did a mock test tournament with my 20 players using points and payouts.

1st - $120 and 15pts
2nd - $70 and 14pts
3rd - $40 and 13pts
4th - $20 and 12pts

Simple test I did was to get down to the top two and do a chop of 50/50 for both money and points.  So first and second should have each received $95 and 14.5pts.  The money does chop correctly.  Each player shows $95, but they both show points value of 15.00 when they should be each 14.50.

Not sure if there is logic that causes it to round up or not.  But I'd really like to get this fixed as the chopping of points happens alot in our league and just last year a half of point is what separated 1st and 2nd.

Help Me / Re: How to properly Chop points.
« on: October 13, 2012, 09:23:20 AM »
Points for Playing on Game tab is if(rank <= 15, 16 - rank,0)

In my stats profile I am using two formulas cause I want to know the total points for all tournaments and also the points for tournaments with dropping the two lowest scores

sum(top(max(4, n - 2), scores))

Help Me / Re: How to properly Chop points.
« on: October 12, 2012, 11:46:18 PM »
Good idea, but doesn't seem like the issue.  I have points precision set to 2 and score precision set to 4.  I think these are both default settings.  Appreciate the thoughts on it.

Help Me / How to properly Chop points.
« on: October 12, 2012, 11:34:51 PM »
While trying to determine if we want to use this program for our league, which is a highly probable, I have one final issue that I'm trying to solve.  How do you chop points to get it accurate?  I have my points system setup as follows:

- 1 league tournament per month
- 20 players
- top 15 earn points in increasing order by position 1pt for 15th on up to 15pts for 1st.

Since we've already played 10 tournaments this year, I'm backloading our tournaments to make sure my points system is correct.  In the second tournament, the 2nd and 3rd place players chopped evenly so 13.5 points each and 1st took the 15 points.  Once I got down to the final three in the tournament, I did the CTRL C to bring up the chop menu and the amount to chop for the money showed correctly, but the points showed zero points to chop.  So I adjusted the points giving first 15 pts, and then 2nd and 3rd splitting 13.5 each.

After doing the manipulation, it appears that the program rather than adding the points, it didn't and seemed to incorrectly value the points.  One player who chopped, should have shown after two tournaments with 21.5 points, but TD showed him with 23.  I think now I have it all jacked up and will have to probably delete the tournament and start over, but I'd like to figure out the proper way to chop it up and count these points correctly.  Is chopping half points possible in the program?

General Discussion / Re: League help
« on: October 12, 2012, 08:48:40 PM »
Thanks Man..  Exactly what I was looking for.

General Discussion / Re: League help
« on: October 11, 2012, 06:44:58 PM »
Just taking my first crack at the software and I must say, I like what I see..

I'm doing something similar to this here were we want to keep track of total points but for the points title, we only want the top 10 of the total 12 points to finish.  This sum(top(10, scores)) would work, but my question is how could we do it where instead of saying top 10, which wouldn't drop a tournament until you actually finished the 11th tournament.  What I tried was using the if statement to say if the number of tournaments was less than 5, then count all the tournaments.  Once we got to our sixth tournament, I'd like to start dropping the bottom two.

For example, this is what I'm thinking, but this doesn't seem to ever evaluate true no matter what in the Overall Score Formula test screen:

if ( n < 5 , assign("c", n),assign("c", n - 2))
sum(top(c, scores))

No matter the value of N it always evaluates C to the value of n - 2.  Any suggestions that anyone can help with??  Thanks.

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