or more likely that we are not all that creative and run pretty simple layouts... I have virtually the same pics as above and I put a little neon glow in the letters... big woopty doo, I don't think anyone will really be all that impressed. There is another user here, CasinoCalgary, and yes that is a real casino. I went to one of the their tournys to see what kind of layout they had and it was just the default layout. I went to another tourny in town and their layout was beautiful but the program they used was not TD. They wouldn't tell me what program they did use though. However, TD would do the same thing, its just that I can't find a background like it and I can't make one for myself.